You need 6 hm's to finish the game (2024)

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  1. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    >Games having mechanics is ... le bad

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      >You will load Pokémon into your team with Dive, Flash, Strength, Dive, Rock Smash and you will be happy

      • 2 days ago

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        >have to sacrifice 5 move slots out of 24 for sub optimal moves as a tradeoff for being able to traverse the overworld
        >NOOOOO THIS IS UNFAIIIRRR I NEED PERFECTLY OPTIMIZED MOVESETS IN THE CAMPAIGN
        maybe RPGs aren't for you.

        • 2 days ago

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          Anonymous

          Surf is great, Strength is OK if you have a normal type or a heavy physical attacker, but everything else is either complete sh*t or redundant, especially in generation 3.

          • 2 days ago

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            Anonymous

            Fly is a good move, just boring since it takes extra turns. The AI can't exploit it so it's practically no downside aside from wasting your time

            • 1 day ago

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              Anonymous

              Oh yeah, forgot about Fly. That one's OK I guess

      • 2 days ago

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        Anonymous

        yeah, because you need to carry slaves all game long right? sh*t becomes a non issue once you reach the next town and can fly over which is something ALL pokemon games have anyway

        • 1 day ago

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          Anonymous

          > yeah, because you need to carry slaves all game long right?
          Yes because the game gives me no reason not to use slaves.

          It’s weird how you morons defend all these objectively sh*tty mechanics like HMs and no team exp share that discourage using full teams and then proceed to surprisedpikachu.jpg when people don’t bother using full teams.

          • 1 day ago

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            Anonymous

            >that discourage using full teams
            By?

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      >Games having bad mechanics is ... le bad
      correct

  2. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    aloolatransgenders do be getting filtered

  3. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    What is an actual flaw of HMs other than being sh*t in battle?

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      needing to be removed by a npc

      • 2 days ago

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        Anonymous

        This is the only thing I actually don't like about them. I don't know why they did that, it's not like you can get stuck without them since they're infinite use

      • 1 day ago

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        This is the only thing I actually don't like about them. I don't know why they did that, it's not like you can get stuck without them since they're infinite use

        This is the only downside to HMs. They're fun and make exploring feel like an adventure.

        • 1 day ago

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          Anonymous

          >going to the PC to withdraw wingull to click the fly button then putting back into the PC 10 seconds later is fun and adds adventure

          • 1 day ago

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            Anonymous

            >need tool
            >get tool
            >use tool
            Problem?

            • 1 day ago

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              Anonymous

              this
              they should add an HM that requires you to click it each time you want to walk one step

              you're using a tool that you need so that means it's good

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                Gamefreak should sell empty game cartridges then, you don't need to use anything to beat the game since there is no game. I'm sure you'd buy it at full price plus tip.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                except I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be a game, sagegay. I'm arguing that the game shouldn't have mechanics that pointlessly waste my time.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                >I'm arguing that the game shouldn't have mechanics that pointlessly waste my time.
                Exactly, that's why I'm saying the ideal game for you has nothing in it at all, nothing wasting your time. Your standards aren't very consistent.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                >time wasting mechanic exists so that must mean every mechanic is time wasting!
                Find a better argument, sagegay.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                >time wasting mechanic exists so that must mean every mechanic is time wasting!
                No.
                Games are just fundamentally time wasting.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                >sagegay has this low of a respect for games
                explains a lot, honestly.

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                Someone with your standards indeed hates games that much.

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              Anonymous

              >that discourage using full teams
              By?

              Gamefreak should sell empty game cartridges then, you don't need to use anything to beat the game since there is no game. I'm sure you'd buy it at full price plus tip.

              stop feeding the troll

              • 1 day ago

                Anonymous

                make better arguments

        • 1 day ago

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          Anonymous

          >need tool
          >get tool
          >use tool
          Problem?

          You need arthritis and several brain injuries to consider this an adventure.

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      Surf, rock climb, strength, waterfall dive and fly are all usable in the game. If strength was fighting type it'll be very usable.

      • 2 days ago

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        Anonymous

        You need 6 hm's to finish the game (7)

        >If strength was fighting type it'll be very usable.
        21 fricking years of my life and somehow i never had this thought cross my mind before i saw this post. it's like not knowing what blue looks like your entire life and then stepping outside and seeing the sky for the first time. or being picrel and discovering what makes the chirp.
        game freak, hire this man and make him CEO. i fricking kneel

      • 2 days ago

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        You need 6 hm's to finish the game (8)

        >If strength was fighting type it'll be very usable.
        21 fricking years of my life and somehow i never had this thought cross my mind before i saw this post. it's like not knowing what blue looks like your entire life and then stepping outside and seeing the sky for the first time. or being picrel and discovering what makes the chirp.
        game freak, hire this man and make him CEO. i fricking kneel

        >Fighting type strength
        Going to have to say no to that. Fighting types are pretty basic, but there's atleast a sense of finesse for their moves. Strength is just that, strength, and it isn't applied tactically or strategically like say, Close Combat or Low Sweep.

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          Anonymous

          Many Fighting types, such as Machoke, naturally learn Strength by level up. I get what you are saying but it's not big enough of a reason compared to the gameplay improvement it would entail.

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      Anonymous

      Waste of time. No challenge or effort required.

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      the biggest flaw with HMs is that they limit team building. For example, in Pokemon Emerald, you're strongly encouraged to have a water type on your team because surf, waterfall, and dive are mandatory for late-game dungeons. If you wanted a full team of 6 non-water types then you'd have one Pokemon that you can't bring to seafloor cavern, Victory Road (and much more if you can't get surf) I don't dislike HMs but I've run into this problem with my mono-fighting and top 6 favorites teams.

    • 1 day ago

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      Takes up a move slot that could be used for anything else thats more useful

  4. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    You need 6 hm's to finish the game (9)

    >you WILL make threads following the opinion of whatever sh*tty Youtuber decided to make an autistic clickbait """analysis""" video this week

  5. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    They should have tied HM usage to species rather than the move when they were remaking the Pokemon data structure. That having been said, RSE isn't super offensive when it comes to HMs. It's really just Sinnoh which is miserable, and that's mostly due to Defog being actively harmful to your gameplay.

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      you need fog sh*t on one route the frick are you talking about

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        Anonymous

        and it’s not even required

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      >That having been said, RSE isn't super offensive when it comes to HMs. It's really just Sinnoh which is miserable,
      they have the exact same number of HMs you gay moron

      • 1 day ago

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        I didn't say number of HMs, moron. It's not just the number of HMs, it's how they're placed in the game, what the moves are and their effects, as well as how they're paced over the course of the game. Hoenn does it pretty solidly, getting Surf is a pretty iconic moment in the game and a lot of the game design is built around it. Sinnoh simply does not do it as well.

  6. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    You need 6 hm's to finish the game (10)

    Not enough

    • 1 day ago

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      Anonymous

      You need 6 hm's to finish the game (11)

      Sinnoh also needs fire HM to surf in lava

  7. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    Fun fact. Dragonite is the only Pokémon with all Fly, Waterfall and Surf that is not a legendary Pokémon. ORAS however gifts you with a Lati@s, which can use the three HMs during main story. Both learn Dive and Whirlpool as well in games where it's required.

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      Your Wingull?

  8. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    /vp/ will never be a sharty colony

  9. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    Trigger warning: This post will praise Gen 5. Do not read if you HATE Bortchads.

    I like how except for one tree every single HM in Black/White is optional and is only used to explore the side paths of every straight road route.

  10. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    my god who fricking cares about hms anyone acting like they’re inconvenienced by them all all is a whiny little hom*osexual b***h

  11. 2 days ago

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    Anonymous

    did you mean to post platinum, you Black person? that game requires as many just for Mt Coronet

    • 2 days ago

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      Anonymous

      >criticize gen 3
      >BUT MUH PLATINUM
      kys

  12. 1 day ago

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    https://discord.com/invite/jXTwny9W

    I agree, requiring so many HMs is bad game design.

    It ruins team building.

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    Anonymous

    You need 6 hm's to finish the game (12)

    https://discord.gg/SMsnVda2

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